Ita Weightlifting Course

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Elle
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Ita Weightlifting Course

Post by Elle »

Soon I will start a course with the Italian Weightlifting Federation, a high-level course taught by a coach of the national team.

Do you have any curiosities that I can ask? Curiosities about techniques, programming, etc.

(I'm thinking of writing an article or a handout about the course anyway)
Guima73
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No particular question, looking forward for your article. 8-)
Hawkpeter
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I'd love to hear their views on long term technical development. What are the aspects of lifting that they like to see embedded early on in young and pre-teenagers? How much allowance is given for individual adaption?
Elle
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First days gone.

These days we talked about athletic preparation for weightlifting.

There has been a radical change with the introduction of a new physical trainer who has a very peculiar vision of the exercises: they must work tendons, myofascia, costamere and nervous system rather than muscles. Muscles are simply slaves of the passive components and the nervous system.

I need to rework my notes, but if you have anything to ask in the meantime, please do!
strapping
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Any updates?

Obsession with the nervous system and fascia sets off my bullshit radar. At the end of the day, these things are trained with weight training and plyometrics. Higher eccentric forces place more demand on passive tissues. It's hard to train a muscle without training the tendons, fascia and nervous system as they are usually interconnected in a live human body
Elle
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I haven't had time to work on my notes, I'll share them with you as soon as possible.

I understand what you say and in fact isolating individual components seems difficult. The teacher has worked for 7 years with artistic gymnastics and he says that it has brought excellent results, but I have no idea of ​​the result he is having with weightlifting athletes (but perhaps it is too early).

As I said, in addition to the muscle, according to him, tendons, myofascia and costamere are important to train.

For each of these elements you can train: compliance, stiffness, thixotropy, rheopexy and hypertrophy. For example, tendon stiffness is trained with prolonged isometrics against an immovable support while myofascial stiffness is trained with prolonged isometrics against an elastic support.

Tests to understand which elements are to be trained? We haven't seen them. Specific exercises? We haven't seen them. How to insert these things logically into a program? We haven't seen them.

We still have one day of class. I hope to see some practical applications.
strapping
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Elle wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:25 pm I haven't had time to work on my notes, I'll share them with you as soon as possible.
Please don't rush. This forum is quiet and slow and I'd rather keep it that way. The world's getting faster and faster but you need to slow down to be able to think properly and process complex ideas with enough depth.
brian.degennaro
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It sounds as if they are just including more variety in the training in order to train different qualities of the soft tissue and joint components then. That is usually the crux of any of the FP/Goata/Weck bros of why their methods seem to have some validity: you train movements and modalities that are not usually a part of the normal sporting movement and with more varying velocities (isometric, longer eccentric TUT, etc) ie: more GPP and less specificity, which as we know with too much specialization it leads to overuse injuries.
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Post by Elle »

Oh, another thing that he mentioned (and I hope he will develop in the next lesson) are the ontogenetic reflexes: we are born with some reflexes that we lose when we grow and this is at least a contributory cause of injuries. We need to reawaken them.
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Re: Ita Weightlifting Course

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Another little hint from yesterday:

Large use of daily undulation of loads but the weeks are pretty much the same (no big weekly undulation). We haven't seen real programs yet (we probably will next time).
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