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An observation I didn't think I would make but here it goes - the top 2 heaviest female 'Paris class' A sessions 81A and 87+A, are going to be more of a competitive and entertaining spectacle than the top 2 male 'Paris classes' 102A and 109+A.

Also good to see this change in system where the 'just weigh in' people aren't taking up places in A sessions.

We're now at E sessions. Have we ever had an F session?

PRK dropped out completely (again).

I know there were classes with 65+ entries in the past (1999?), but not if F sessions were used.

Preliminary thoughts

• This is not the start book. The start book will be published 48 hours prior to the first session, with the title 2023-WCH-START-BOOK-V6-Final-docx-to-pdf-FINAL.pdf
• I was gonna say PRK absent but I forgot to submit my comment 3 days ago so erpel has beat me to it.
• I expect to see a number of countries/teams pulling out, as happens every year after the entry list is produced. I also expect that the number of sessions will be cut down after those lifters pull out.
• There are so many sessions, partially because of OG vs non-OG categories, but also because some of the sessions are smaller than they *need* to be. 56 total athletes in a weight category can be divided into four or five sessions as you wish, but historically it has been four.
• With such a large number of sessions condensed into the given timeframe, there are sessions *planned* to start at 21:30 local time. At least one of them will be delayed. Nocturnal weebs rise up, 9-5 job havers in the mud
• The fact that the weigh-in only athletes are given a 60kg entry total is kinda funny. Not sure why, I assume it's something to do with IWF IT stuff. Also, there's definitely still gonna be people in the A sessions who will weigh-in and withdraw.
• I feel a bit more excited about this Worlds than I have for the last couple of years, I hope I'm not disappointed. Even some of the B sessions look pretty stacked.
• I will once again become an avid South Korean internet enjoyer thanks to the University of Tsukuba.
• IWF still hasn't removed banned results from the OQR list.

Hawkpeter wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:45 pm An observation I didn't think I would make but here it goes - the top 2 heaviest female 'Paris class' A sessions 81A and 87+A, are going to be more of a competitive and entertaining spectacle than the top 2 male 'Paris classes' 102A and 109+A.

I think the super categories are similarly interesting. Lasha is more interesting than Li Wenwen (IMO) but the women's battle for silver/bronze is more interesting than the men's.

M102 has been a disappointing category. Everyone increased bodyweight from M96kg and then lifted less (often due to things like injury, understandable). I'm hoping the tides will change from this competition onwards but I'm not holding out much hope.

Liu Huanhua may have a legitimate chance as a 102 given how disappointing China's M73 delegation has been.
AAAAHHHH EEEHHHHh is in better shape now than at Asians so he may still have a chance, but I'd throw out a guesstimate (zero info lmao) of about 120-150 capability right now. Subjectively he looked capable of about 100-125 at Asians so I guess it's less worse?

Women's 81 on the other hand, is looking to become spicy in terms of competition if not for historical reasons. But obviously there's a caveat to said history. The battle for medals (especially bronze) should be interesting, with a few people capable of mid and low 260s.

To be fair though, pretty much every Olympic bw cat looks interesting for this WWC with regards to competition.

I don't remember anything prior to last week any longer, has it ever been explicitly stated what's wrong with Shi M73? Why is he dragged along if maybe he's back to 90% by mid 2024?

Streaming possibly here:

https://olympics.com/en/sport-events/20 ... ips-riyadh

erpel wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:05 am I don't remember anything prior to last week any longer, has it ever been explicitly stated what's wrong with Shi M73? Why is he dragged along if maybe he's back to 90% by mid 2024?

I suspect it's back pain and/or injury, particularly sensitive to heavy bracing in a vertical position (e.g. overhead) I know it's been mentioned but can't for the life of me remember where it has been talked about.

I think China just wants to keep its options open in case their 61, 89 or 102 also get injured. It's not unprecedented. They'll make their decision on the 31st of May like everyone else.

strapping wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:19 am [*] I expect to see a number of countries/teams pulling out, as happens every year after the entry list is produced. I also expect that the number of sessions will be cut down after those lifters pull out.

I really do believe this is the intended start book though. The IWF wanted to avoid these shenanigans. There is no further verification planned (in the regulations):

https://iwf.sport/wp-content/uploads/do ... _FINAL.pdf

erpel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:04 am I really do believe this is the intended start book though. The IWF wanted to avoid these shenanigans. There is no further verification planned (in the regulations):

I'm just cynical. I do think it's the intended to be the genuine start book but I feel that there will be absences/cancellations.

It's happening:

erpel wrote: ↑Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:46 pm It's happening:

yee

Preliminary thoughts based on day 1 training hall garbage er I mean footage

• Some athletes are still not in qualifying shape. I still expect A session withdrawals.
• Thailand be Thailandin' again
• At what age will Eko Yuli Irawan no longer be able to snatch double bodyweight and/or retire? 40? 45? 50?
• The training platforms don't look slippery per se, but not as grippy as they probably ought to be. Hopefully not an issue on the competition platform.
• There were a number of training camps run prior to this competition. I'm always curious as to whether it's simply a travel scheduling issue or if people think they actually help. I think they're fun for making friends but not much more than that.