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Re: News

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:19 pm
by strapping
erpel wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:15 pm I honestly don't think it matters who's on the AC. I mean, it's the lifters after all who get banned. Bit of holier than thou aspect to it.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean, could you clarify?

In terms of the IOC's opinion on the AC, I don't think they could give a shit.

To me, the AC appointments matter a bit because they, to some degree, influence the decisions made by the executive board, which is still infested with old guard who are trying to make decisions in clear contradiction of the future of the sport.

It's individual to the nominee but some of them were clear mouthpieces for their federation(s) and I don't think that is beneficial for the governance of the sport, especially when corruption and back-door deals are what is killing the sport in the first place.

As it stands though, there are definitely more pressing issues. Like the fact that the IWF doesn't have any employees who actually do operational stuff, just a bunch of bureaucrats in committees.

Re: News

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 2:41 pm
by erpel
I mean Bonnat DOM was on the AC. Lyu CHN and Reis BRA previously also in 2021. It's just another layer of bureaucracy.

I don't share the perception that there's a great rift between an old (not just in age) guard and a newer generation represented by (younger) athletes.

Re: News

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 1:56 pm
by erpel
2023 Chinese Nationals will be held: April 15-19 for women and April 22-26 for men.

https://www.cwa.org.cn/tongzhigonggao/2 ... 27685.html

Re: News

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:59 am
by strapping
erpel wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 2:41 pm I mean Bonnat DOM was on the AC. Lyu CHN and Reis BRA previously also in 2021. It's just another layer of bureaucracy.

I don't share the perception that there's a great rift between an old (not just in age) guard and a newer generation represented by (younger) athletes.
Perhaps I didn't express myself clearly as I do agree with you.

I agree that the AC is another layer of bureaucracy and optics (not for the IOC, who don't give a fuck) and that athletes are not necessarily representing positive change.

However, every athlete/politician represents different vested interests and has a different history of behaviour behind the scenes. Some are complete sock puppets, whereas others are likely to be more independent. My point with my first post was regarding the AC chairs being involved with the EB, where having a federation control the board through sock puppets obviates the entire point of a board. Part of the reason I'm aggrieved about it is the holier than thou attitude of said puppeteers.

Also noted earlier, I don't think it's the IWF's most pressing issue, not by a long shot. Board members, AC or otherwise, don't do operational stuff. For all of Ajan's innumerable faults, he did actually set up a functional office. Well it functioned for him, but it functioned.

From relatively public information, at least some Hungarian employees in the secretariat did not move to Lausanne to continue working for the IWF. But I would really suspect that none of the Hungarian employees have moved to Lausanne. Remote work is possible, though there are some particular limitations with that (outside of the normal ones).

Should said employees be terminated however, the IWF would struggle to get anything done, more than it already does. You can't have a federation without ops managers, IT, financial, legal officers and so on.

Re: News

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:03 am
by strapping
erpel wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 1:56 pm 2023 Chinese Nationals will be held: April 15-19 for women and April 22-26 for men.

https://www.cwa.org.cn/tongzhigonggao/2 ... 27685.html
The CWA website appears to be down currently. Do you remember any other interesting details?

Re: News

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:53 am
by erpel
Nope (just a spreadsheet).

Re: News

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:11 am
by erpel
The WL part of the 2022 Asian Games was delayed to "create a bigger gap with the 2023 World Championships" (held same month). It was moved back by... 3 days.

https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles ... sian-games
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Asian_Games#Calendar

Re: News

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:24 pm
by erpel
Paris 2024 rankings released:

https://iwf.sport/qualif2024/

Re: News

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:44 am
by Guima73

Re: News

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:00 am
by erpel
The Asian Champs this year seems to have a decent website, there's a chance stuff like entries and streaming can be found eventually.

https://en.2023jawc.org