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Hawkpeter wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 11:33 pm...

That's almost what they've argued with the IOC.

https://iwf.sport/2025/04/10/iwf-acknow ... 28-quotas/

IWF wanted (2x7)x9=126 athletes.

What make the outcome particularly difficult to accept is the number of sports that are also predominately individual in competition format, but have more slots than weightlifting.
Even boxing, a sport that had its federation taken over by the IOC because of how dysfunctional it is, has more than double the slots.

Archery, Badmitton, Boxing, Canoe, Equestrian, Fencing, Judo, Table Tennis, Tae kwon do and Wrestling - hardly sports that bring in enormous viewership, have more slots than Weightlifting. I suppose the sport is very lucky to be there at all given the corruption.

Even having 6+6 (with no superfluous classes) would be enough for the time being. The argument should've been with other weight divisional sports in mind. Wrestling has 6 too e.g...

Hawkpeter wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:24 pm What make the outcome particularly difficult to accept is the number of sports that are also predominately individual in competition format, but have more slots than weightlifting.
Even boxing, a sport that had its federation taken over by the IOC because of how dysfunctional it is, has more than double the slots.

Archery, Badmitton, Boxing, Canoe, Equestrian, Fencing, Judo, Table Tennis, Tae kwon do and Wrestling - hardly sports that bring in enormous viewership, have more slots than Weightlifting. I suppose the sport is very lucky to be there at all given the corruption.

erpel wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:30 am Even having 6+6 (with no superfluous classes) would be enough for the time being. The argument should've been with other weight divisional sports in mind. Wrestling has 6 too e.g...

Whilst I think you are both right logically, I think that the IOC would hate the bad publicity brought by cutting slots with no external reason. Ultimately, doping and corruption gave the excuse to cut weightlifting down and the IOC isn't accountable to anyone.

I would be shocked if the weightlifting quota or number of events at the Olympics ever gets increased again. For whatever it's worth, I think my best guess regarding the weight categories is a pretty good guess. We'll see in about a month or so.

I do think the number of OG medals would've been reduced to 7+7 or even 6+6 eventually even if there were no re-test positives, Ajan was still president etc., simply because the IOC always wants to include new events. Other sports had (less severe) cuts as well.

They're going to change 98 to 94, but not 88 & 110? Now I'm confused.

erpel wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:31 am They're going to change 98 to 94, but not 88 & 110?

As far as I understand it, 88 will probably not be an Olympic category. 65, 79, 94, 110, +110.

erpel wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:31 am Now I'm confused.

Stop thinking. The I in IWF stands for illogical.

Then 88 is going to be empty at WWC etc.

Also just stating a W69-W86 jump would be awful.

erpel wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:48 am Then 88 is going to be empty at WWC etc.

something something new weight categories to avoid non olympic categories

erpel wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:48 am Also just stating a W69-W86 jump would be awful.

W63-W77, W86, super. Yes, 77 and 86 are functionally the same category but they have to match the men's.
I don't like the category distribution of featherweight, middleweight, middle heavyweight, heavyweight, super-heavyweight.

The order for those uninitiated:
Flyweight
Bantamweight
Featherweight
Lightweight
Middleweight
Light Heavyweight
Middle Heavyweight
Sub-heavyweight
Heavyweight
Super-heavyweight

When you put it in those terms, I think even the average viewer can see how biased those categories are. East Asia will not be pleased.

53-63-77-SHW should be Olympic and from its competitiveness 58 would be the 5th. But still not properly representative.

Just make 50-60-70-80-SHW and you cover 95% of participation.