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Xiexia's 120 and Taylan's 121 didn't look like limit reps when they actually occurred, but they were never bettered, and we knpw how all that ended. Ri Song Gum could take this WR to 125 and beyond.

Hawkpeter wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 4:50 am Xiexia's 120 and Taylan's 121 didn't look like limit reps when they actually occurred, but they were never bettered, and we knpw how all that ended. Ri Song Gum could take this WR to 125 and beyond.

This is admittedly inconsistent and hypocritical but I can't really work up the energy to care about Ri Song Gum's (or any PRK) performances unless she beats 99 (Mingjuan), 126 or 221 (Tian Yuan). They are the historical 48kg Chinese NRs and IMO the true untested WRs of this category. She was good in 2019, but not this good. Jumping from 209 to 216 (realistically capable of 219-220) between the ages of 22-26 is highly unusual.

I guess I just find it difficult to care when the times have changed, for the better, in the post Ajan days. That's not to say things are clean now, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Thank you, erpel and strapping!

Good battle for first in M60A, and less red than we typically see out of this category. Wang Hao was good. W53 was pretty boring.

Catching up.
I don't think 125@48 will be possible for Ri, she's getting up there in age for a PRK lifter.

Kang W53 looked (much) weaker than I expected. I didn't understand why Du CHN gave up, but later noticed holding her elbow after 3rd attempt. ROU only weighed like 50.xx.

Rusev BUL?! Didn't look in pain. Why Wang CHN no 142 WR attempt?

Very easy 180 in the training hall from Kaz Jr 79. There is some small possibility that we have 3-4 lifters doing 200 in that category.

M65A valid and undeniable opinions

• This session was full of surprises. A friend asked for my predictions before the session, most of them turned out wrong.
• I love when the new scoreboard gets stuck upside down.
• OZBEK Muhammed Furkan TUR cutting down from 73 (bw 77 in training) to 65 and going well was unexpected. Those big cuts rarely go well but every rule has its exception.
• I think Ozbek's performance highlights how the 61s have been pretty rough in the snatches relative to the jerk compared to the other categories.
• This is total conjecture from mouth to ass to mouth but I think cutting a lot of weight seems to affect connection to the bar and overall coordination more than leg strength for most lifters. Recovering from a heavy clean is of course harder with a cut, but I wonder if it's because the clean itself tends to be less well executed. I would expect it's because most lifters tend to have a decent reserve of leg strength, so a 2-3% drop in strength is less apparent when applied in a technical context.
• Ozbek does not care about the above point
• Expected PAK Myong Jin PRK to lift a cut above Morris/Mosquera, I guess he hasn't filled it out yet (64.33).
• IRAWAN Eko Yuli INA still being the #1 65 in Indonesia is pretty funny. His ability to lift after a big cut and his power seems to have dwindled with age, but as a father with a job he is still outlifting the younger lifters from a relatively powerful weightlifting country.
• I had wondered where Jon MAU GER had gone after 2023. Turns out it was 6 months of chemotherapy.
• Mosquera seems like a nice guy.

W58A

• Remove the jury's right to overturn lifts. They should be a reserve for backup referees in case the referees prove incompetent.
• The suggestion floated around of having the jury members vote together with referees on each lift may in fact give me an aneurysm.
• The rule around "deliberate oscillation" is stupid because referees do not, almost cannot know what is deliberate.
• Continued lack of enthusiasm around PRK WRs, only countered by the sheer rage induced by the jury.
• Not unique to W58, but I'm not liking the amount of red on the board.
• KUO Hsing CHun TPE presumably somewhat healed from her back issue and not squat jerking.
• LAWAL Rafiatu NGR looked strong in the snatches. I see why she got reds but I don't agree with the decision.

Busy weekend! 71kg B session is the first I've been able to sit down and watch rather than skimming the VOD and scoreboard.
The venue looks really good, the competition seems to be very well run.
Production looks decent, though I would recommend someone use the vacuum cleaner further away from the room mic.

The upcoming World Championships are probably going to be well run, the only question mark is around streaming for 2026 Worlds (YouTube/Facebook banned in China). Things are looking good from a presentation standpoint, though it would be nice if the IWF could allow social media people to get better access. It's not a competing market against TV!


Classic Armenian cinema (supers jumping over objects of varying sizes).

W63 not particularly interesting
M71,

• Very exciting session to watch.
• HE Yueji CHN being able to eat food and not cut excessive weight seems to have done wonders. Looked capable of 162-163.
• SAHAKYAN Gor ARM did well to hit 154. Narrow miss from MIYAMOTO Masanori JPN on 156.
• Clean and jerks were a great battle. HE did the usual snatch specialist thing, missing 188 after 184 made things way more interesting.
• Traded lifts between Miyamoto, Wichuma THA, Ri Won Ju culminated in Wichuma 194 miss then jury overturn good lift to move ahead of Miyamoto 193. Ri tries 195 and misses. Miyamoto pulls it in but cannot bounce up out of it, Wichuma wins.
• Good lifting

strapping wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 6:41 am
[*] This is total conjecture from mouth to ass to mouth but I think cutting a lot of weight seems to affect connection to the bar and overall coordination more than leg strength for most lifters. Recovering from a heavy clean is of course harder with a cut, but I wonder if it's because the clean itself tends to be less well executed. I would expect it's because most lifters tend to have a decent reserve of leg strength, so a 2-3% drop in strength is less apparent when applied in a technical context.

100% agree with your conjecture. The 'feel' of the barbell-lifter system is way off.

Shout out to Delos Santos from Phillipines with the JWR of 185kg in the C&J at 71kg.