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A new sinclair coefficient.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 6:54 am
by Hawkpeter
You might notice that the sinclair coefficient has not been updated for this quad.

Apparently the fellow (Canadian, PhD Statistics) who took over doing it, is not interested in continuing.

Its probably not a big deal but I thought it was worth mentioning.

Re: A new sinclair coefficient.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:23 pm
by erpel
Hawkpeter wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 6:54 amApparently the fellow (Canadian, PhD Statistics) who took over doing it, is not interested in continuing.
Was there a reason given?

Re: A new sinclair coefficient.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:19 pm
by Hawkpeter
The 2nd hand information communicated to me was that he took a job in a US University and was not interested in continuing in updating the coefficient.

Re: A new sinclair coefficient.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:38 am
by strapping
Hawkpeter wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:19 pm The 2nd hand information communicated to me was that he took a job in a US University and was not interested in continuing in updating the coefficient.
I have heard this as well.

The Sinclair coefficient had its faults but it was still a nice stat to use, as long as it wasn't treated religiously (which it usually is).

Weightlifting has quite a few mathematicians in its community, hopefully someone wants to step up to it but it's a lot of work.

Re: A new sinclair coefficient.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 6:19 am
by Hawkpeter
So, in the last few days IWF actually distributed a new Sinclair formula!

Apparently has been sent out to member nations, so expect some sort of public statement soon and recalibration of the tool on the iwf page.

Re: A new sinclair coefficient.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 6:25 am
by strapping
FYI Marc Poretti updated the new Sinclair coefficents (SC) for the 2021-2024 Olympic cycle (prior to this thread...) and it was recently distributed to national federations.

Updated values
Men's
A: 0.722762521
b: 193.609kg

Women's
A: 0.787004341
b: 153.757 kg

SC where athlete BW is less than b, is given by 10AX2 where X=log10(athlete bodyweight/b)
SC where athlete BW exceeds value b is 1.
Hawkpeter wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:19 pm The 2nd hand information communicated to me was that he took a job in a US University and was not interested in continuing in updating the coefficient.
I'm told (can't be confirmed) that the reason for his reluctance was due to the IWF implementing the Robi points as a seeming replacement. However after the farce that was Tokyo qualification, he realised they were fucked.

Re: A new sinclair coefficient.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:02 pm
by strapping