2023 IWF Senior World Championships

[strapping]

Mendez is a likely one, given the fact that he was/is coachef by Giorgi Panchev and his rapid return to shape. Erpel laughs once again.

Aren't half of the Italian team in "troubles"? There is no certainty about what can or will happen in the future, Karlos Nasar got his Achilles sliced by a bathroom sink. Responding to and maximising the result of the lifter in front of you today id more important than defeating a glorified spreadsheet.

[erpel]

I will not be sympathetic towards anyone deciding to get a high total once in two years and then bombing (hubris).

Thinking about Paredes, not Pizzolato here.

[strapping]

M96
didn't watch
ABOHKALA Karim EGY places current effective 9th (prior to the 102A) with the removal of ADILETULY Nurgissa KAZ (doping sanction) and TURMANDIZE Irakli (withdrawal from 2023 WWC, DSQ from Paris quali).

W71

• Italy went from reckless openers for their nervous athletes to reckless second/third attempts. Hopefully Miserendino is not seriously injured.
• Fuckin TV production people on the camera
• DAJOMES Angie ECU didn't look quite as good as in Cuba, equally strong but less coordinated. Regression towards the mean probably
• Belarus continues to pump out lifters with basic fluent technique.
• REEVES Olivia USA had an excellent day, the kind of breakout performance that you can never truly expect from an athlete.
• LIAO Guifang CHN still the class of the field. A bit disappointed that she didn't go for the 122 (which she would've missed), made up for by the attempt on 153 clean and jerk WR. 273 puts her only 2kg below Liang Xiaomei's #1 rank in W81. For my money, Guifang is the clear best of the W59/W71/W81 Chinese group.
• Overall, I enjoyed this session and the lack of delulu entry totals and subsequent 20kg-ruled openers.

I will not be sympathetic towards anyone deciding to get a high total once in two years and then bombing (hubris).
Thinking about Paredes, not Pizzolato here.

Agreed, competing at high level is a skill and one that you can lose freshness/practice in. He may have an injury, though I would suspect that he's just doing it because he can.

[Elle]

Giulia Miserendino is afraid of the clean and jerk, Corbu says. So they choose to make an easy first attempt and then try to push.

I think she was in a good shape, she did a clean and jerk at 125kg in the training hall and was quite easy (Corbu says her max in training is 132 or 133, I can't remember precisely). We will see today's interview.

[erpel]

Valodzka BLR has very good movement. El fluido del este.

Italy can only be watched with hands on one's temples.

Palacios ECU really needs three attempts to get to 140(+) so she'll never catch Liao. I thought for sure she must have the area record, but it's actually held by the USA lifter now. (wasn't sure about her ceiling after the earlier GP)

China (again and again) needs the women's team to hold up their reputation.

There was no bomb from the A group, shocking.

[Elle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT08OgPAvlM

Hot points
- Giulia is not present at the interview and no question were asked about this ("is she ok?"). WTF
- According to Corbu, she had a small injury (he does not say where) but it was not the cause of the bad competition, she was in a very good shape (better than Massidda).
- She continues to suffer going on the platform, in the gym and during the warm up the things were fine.
- The 110kg was not so bad but she "seated" after the knee and could not push completely with legs.
- In the 112kg she went completely backward with the shoulders and the barbell didn't go up.
- The 122kg was easy.
- She understimated the 128kg and that's and error that an élite athlete cannot commit. It's a maturation problem according to Corbu. It happens too frequently, so something has to change.
- In the gym she did 114kg in the snatch and 132kg in the clean and jerk several times and had a jerk PR of 145kg. She also did 125kgx2 in the clean and jerk and jerked 128kgx4. She has not weight cut to do for the competitions.
- In the 129kg she collapsed forward during the dip in the jerk because her legs were off.
- When the growth is so good (she improved a lot) it becomes difficult to transfer the gym results to the platform.
- There has been growth in the team from May-June to here, which even if it hasn't materialized is not lost.
- The italian team, under Corbu direction, won everything but not a gold olympic medal (lots of international medals, also with youngster, and world record). He wants this last achievement.
- The italian system is only inside the CPO (centro di preparazione olimpica), there's no the possibility to export the system on the territory with the amateur weightlifting societies. There's lot of work to do to bridge disparities, it needs time.

[strapping]

W76

• Didn't really watch, but why did AHMED Sara EGY weigh 75.06 and win with 2/2 108+138? This feels like BMing the entire category. It seems unlikely that she would go for the 71kg slot and her BW has floated between 75-80, but one would think that you'd commit to the dreamer bulk.
• No other real Olympic contenders IMO

M102

• Will this category continue to be disappointing? Let's find out!
• No chance any WR standards are broken. Good competition is all we can hope for, top results will be down compared to last quad 96/109 results normalised for BW. In fact, the top 96 results are still above the top 102 results.
• Plesnieks with his belt in front of the camera for either sponsorship or more likely because he's had a bad day on the platform and doesn't want a camera in his face.
• Armenians had zero self preservation in the clean and jerk.
• Yauheni TSIKHANTSOU just bullies the barbell; workable in the snatch but not the jerk.
• JIN Yunseong KOR just weighing in seems to be a bad decision; JANG Yeonhak with 399 takes the KOR slot. Jin Yunseong doesn't appear to be hurt (edit: I'm stupid. Minor knee injury).
• Meso's 223 2nd attempt was definitively an elbow flicker and in contravention of the rules; the rules robbed him of a good lift.
• LIU Huanhua wins, deservedly, with the top contenders out of shape or not competing (@paredes @jin @kaz-23). 404 is enough to make the Chinese consider him. At least he's less prone to bombing out and clutching defeat from the jaws of victory.
• Tight competition, the category is slowly maturing but too late with the Olympics too soon. It will still be an interesting battle, but we're not going to see the best performances from these lifters, relative to their capabilities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT08OgPAvlM
Hot points
- Giulia is not present at the interview and no question were asked about this ("is she ok?"). WTF
- According to Corbu, she had a small injury (he does not say where) but it was not the cause of the bad competition, she was in a very good shape (better than Massidda).
- She continues to suffer going on the platform, in the gym and during the warm up the things were fine.
- She understimated the 128kg and that's and error that an élite athlete cannot commit. It's a maturation problem according to Corbu. It happens too frequently, so something has to change.
- In the gym blah blah

i think the italian competition coaching has a "maturation problem"

[erpel]

The two Armenians aren't going to cut it.

Although I don't approve of the process, Paredes BRN will total 410 by next year. So will likely Djuraev UZB by the time of the World Cup.

Liu CHN isn't tall enough for this class, arguably. He has a few kg left in both lifts, but not 230. Having Tian Tao get fatter and aim for 180+235 would've been prudent.

I think Ahmed EGY was (pre-)injured.

I'm hoping Liang Xiaomei tries 159 WR today (can't watch live).

[brian.degennaro]

Italians make me yell at my computer "you damn stunads!" more than I want to or thought possible.

[strapping]

Liu Huanhua is probably 102 as a result of the elder siblings getting preference.
I think Paredes and Djuraev are total unknown quantities.


W81
Snatch

• Caught a glimpse of the scoreboard for the B session. 27/84 (32.1%) success rate. O wow
• NASCIMENTO Laura continues the Brazillian and Swedish tradition of bullying the barbell, to limited success.
• SALAZAR Tamara ECU pulled out during warmups. Possibly hurt?
• DAJOMES Neisi ECU 115/118x/120x. 120x was a narrow miss, just didn't quite finish the lift off.
• ROGERS Martha USA 110/112/115x. 110 was meh, 112 was an excellent lift, 115 miss was yanked off the floor and closely missed behind.
• CIKAMATANA Eileen AUS 110x/110/115x. Silly miss on the first, didn't stay connected. 115 was close but same issue.
• LIANG Xiaomei CHN and WANG Zhouyu CHN battling out for their national slot, both ending on 122. Wang closely misses 124 with a soft finish. That'll probably come back to bite her, she probably needed the buffer in the clean and jerk.
• Everyone missing the snatches in broadly the same way. A lot of lifters backing away from the bar and leaving it front, sometimes holding onto it as it comes down and catching it in the hips like the end of a pull. Interesting coincidence.

Clean and jerk

• Warmup time. Enjoying the Facebook feed, the ambient competition sound with the Arabic music and lifting of weights is so much kinder to the ears than the commentators.
• After a bad snatch session, Dajomes ECU pulls out of the clean and jerks. May be hurt, or may simply be preserving herself given the difficulty of reaching a 151 CJ/266 total for OQR.
• MEJIA Yudelina DOM initially gets the most bizarre 2 white lights on 130, having done 1 dip and then actually attempting a jerk. The jury overturns it, but how was that ever passed in the first place? This is a clown show from the refs.
• She fails to make another two attempts. She actually signals for silence, whilst her coaches are yelling at a million words per minute. Confusing.
• After a spate of terrible clean and jerk attempts, Laura NASCIMENTO makes a convincing opener on 133.
• Professional time wasting starts.
• 138 NASCIMENTO Laura BRA, lunged jerk unsurprisingly unsuccessful. 140 same thing.
• ROGERS Martha USA 140, a bit rugged, looking similar in difficulty to 145 in the training hall. 143 2nd was a hard clean, half jerk attempt. 143 3rd was a better jerk attempt but not solidly racking and stopping the bar in the dip/drive.
• CIKAMATANA Eileen AUS 143 opener was reasonable. 146 was better. 150 was a very hard clean, fairly close miss on the jerk.
• 147 opener for WANG Zhouyu, not easy. 155 for second attempt, clean almost murdered her but didn't. Then avg Wang Zhouyu jerk, easy. Declined third.
• LIANG Xiaomei 148 opener, easy, 156, easy, 159 not easy but made for the first (non-standard) WR set in W81kg.

Addendum
115 snatch bomb for Koanda was weird. Didn't look too heavy. Just weird.