The Sanctions Thread

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strapping wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:20 am DJANGABAEV Rustam
Uzbekistan
Provisional Suspension
Art. 2.1 – Presence of SARMS enobosarm (ostarine) metabolite
Violation Date: 22 February 2024

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The violation date suggests this test was OOC after the 2024 Asian Championships. This now moves BIDANI Walid ALG 420 into 10th.

I was aware of Yufkin's result, hence *mostly*. There were other names I was familiar with, for one reason or another.
Is this not a second doping violation for Djangabaev??

Regarding the word mostly,you will have to excuse my poor reading skills.. ;)
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Correct, he tested positive OOC for hGH in 2019, 4 year sanction. Expensive drug and WADA is lucky they conducted the test OOC. This time would be 7 or 8 years? That's his career almost certainly finished.

The rumour goes that Ostarine is difficult to detect or has a short detection window, I think the frequency of metabolite detections suggests otherwise.

No worries regarding reading skills, we all make mistakes.
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BELKHIR Ghofrane
Tunisia (W59)
Art 2.1 - Presence of Carboxy-THC
5 February 2024 (likely African Championships)

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Always sad to see non-PEDs resulting in bans and I am saying that as someone who is not fond of marijuana or stoners.
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New, or is the year a typo?

David Fischerov BUL - Trenbolone - 10 March 2023
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erpel wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:31 pm New, or is the year a typo?

David Fischerov BUL - Trenbolone - 10 March 2023
Most likely the athlete used the legal process to delay the publication to some degree. No surprise that a Bulgarian tested positive; particularly one who defected to Bulgaria to sling heavy weights and improved ridiculously quickly despite maintaining incredibly poor technique.
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Are every group athletes tested in competition?? Or are they randomly chosen??
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Guima73 wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:58 am Are every group athletes tested in competition?? Or are they randomly chosen??
Partially random, partially non-random. There is obviously targeted testing towards particular athletes, David Fischer as a highly relevant example. Unfortunately it is not feasible to test all athletes.

Personally, I think that in-competition testing in itself has limited efficacy for teams with well funded pharmacology support. Out of competition testing, targeted based off competition red flags but with randomised time within a window seems to be the way we see most positives nowadays.

For athletes who source PEDs individually or do not have it well planned/executed, drug contamination or availability can be a contributing factor to in-competition positives. Some of these drugs have extremely long detection windows (several months).

Of course, it can also be something as stupid as "oh, I thought ostarine wasn't detectable".
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HAMMADI Maghnia
Algeria ALG
Art 2.1
Presence of Oxandrolone [Anavar]
Violation date: 22 May 2022
Ineligiibility: 28 July 2022 to 27 July 2028 [6 years]
DSQ: 22 May 2022 to 28 July 2022

Most likely a positive in pre-competition testing prior to the 2022 Mediterranean Games, where she did 100+121.
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What do we make of the Kazakh cases? Agreement on consequences? 16 to 18months for SARMS? What gives?
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My thoughts are that you should use condoms rather than S-23 for male birth control. Doesn't cost as much, it works better and you're less likely to get an STI. The pros outweigh the cons.

16-18 months and agreement on consequences suggests considerable co-operation between the ITA and the athletes. In notable contrast, Adiletuly Nurgissa and Antropov Artyom tested positive on the same dates (12-13 May 2023) but have not had their sanctions finalised. I would wager that we will see another athlete support personnel receiving another sanction as Alexey Ni did.

Edit: I misremembered, he stood down but was not sanctioned. I confused him for Liu Ning

Side note: Alina Maruschak's positive for diuretics (hydrochlorothiazide) isn't showing up on the ITA sanction list at the moment.
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